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Of course, it would add to the amount of data being transferred and slow it down a bit :-( Or even use a stored procedure to select into a temporary table then return the count of records in that table and finally return the records.Andrew You have already answered your own question."processoriented" Hi, I'm something of a noob at this, but here it is..."processoriented" Hi, I'm something of a noob at this, but here it is... NET Application Architect, Enthusiast, & Evangelist T. Bradley - Hi, I'm something of a noob at this, but here it is...

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If the select statement was of the form SELECT COUNT(*), [other stuff], would SQL Server be efficient enough to only do the count once?

Then could that value be retrieved from the dataset before the dataset is filled?

the only "hitch" comes on one of the more complex queries (query needs to poll five different tables, and decide based on some SQL functions which data to include/exclude - clearly not the most efficient query I've every written, but given the needs of the application it is really the only way to grab what is needed and prevent the user from seeing some information that should remain confidential - because what needs to remain confidential changes dynamically, there is no other way than the complex query to get it...

but I digress) the query normally takes about 25 to 30 seconds to run, and when I rewrote the query to give me a count of the records the "count" query still takes about 10-15 seconds to run...